List of Vista compatible games
This post has updated. Please see at the bottom to find more updates on which games are compatible on Windows Vista.
Entries are in alphabetical order.
1602 A.D. (32-Bit)
Agatha Christie : And then there were none (32 bit)
Agatha Christie : Murder on the orient express (32 bit)
Aliens versus Predator 2
Americas Army 2.7 (32-bit)
Anno 1701
Age of Empires and the Rise of Rome expansion
Age of Empires II and the Conquerors expansion
Age of Empires III and The WarChiefs expansion
Alice (American McGee’s)

Another World: 15th Anniversary Edition
Ankh II : hearth of Osiris (32-bit)
Armies of Exigo
Atlantis II (32-bit)
Atlantis III (32-bit)
Atlantis IV Evolution (32-bit)
Aura : Fate of the ages (32-bit)
Armed and Dangerous
Arx Fatalis
Blade Runner (32-bit)
Baldur’s Gate (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Baldur’s Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Battle for Middle-Earth 1 & 2
Battlefield 2 & Special Forces (Run BF2.exe As Administrator.)
Battlefield 2142(32bit)
Battlefield 2142(64bit) – Same settings used on XP, crashes to desktop at every map change (after a certain period) due to low video card memory (256mb). Disable Areo or set texture settings lower.
Black and White 2
Blood II The Chosen (It rarely crashes, but this was happening under XP too.)
Broken Sword: The Angel of Death
Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Call of Duty & United Offensive
Call of Duty 2 (run cod2mp_s.exe in XP SP2 compability mode; SP fine.)
Call of Duty 2 upgraded to 1.3 works on Home Premium RTM no trouble (32 bit)
Championship Manager 2007
Civilization III (run as administrator, XP SP2 compatibility mode)
Civilization IV (Vista 32/64-bit)
Civ City Rome (32 bit)
Cobra 11 – Nitro (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Command & Conquer: Generals
Commandos: Beyond The Call Of Duty
Company of Heroes (32bit Home Premium) no problems generally.(NB With NVIDIA 8800GTX/GTS GPUs the game crashes when loading Cherbourg level. Needs GPU driver update. ‘Open issue’ with 20/02/07 100.65 forceware drivers)
Condemned – Criminal Origins
Continuum
Counter-Strike 1.6
Counter-Strike Condition Zero
Counter-Strike Source
Crashday (With patch 1.1 + No Intro Fix)
Cricket 07 (Australian version – works on both x86 & x64)
Darwinia
Day of Defeat
Deal or No Deal
Delta Force Black Hawk Down & Team Sabre
Deus Ex
Diablo I
Diablo II – NOTE: For best results, set Compatibility Mode for application to Windows XP SP2 in the shortcut’s properties and run as Administrator. This should allow all features of game to work properly, including LAN and Battle.Net play. If the game takes too long to start up, try disabling Aero Glass (or under compatability disable desktop composition).
Doom 2(Doom95) (Requires DPlay.dll in the game’s directory for doom95 to work properly)
Doom 3 (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doomsday 3D Engine v1.9.0 Beta 4
Dracula 2 (32-bit) (Win 98 Compatibility Mode)
Dreamfall : the Longest journey (32-bit) : run after installation of Starforce Drivers. Install them form here
Driver (32bit)
Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition with all Add-Ons (for Windows Edition; not original 16-bit MS-DOS) (This game works slowly with too low performance if you don’t install the driver of your graphic card manually although Vista automatically recognizes and installs the drivers of your graphic card and DirectX.)
Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution Pack (HRP) (also External Release (XTR)) v1.0
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project
Dungeon Keeper
Dungeon Keeper 2 (32-Bit)
Dynasty warriors 4 hyper
EA Link for EA Games
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion: Runs great on Vista with 1.1 patch
Eve Online Fully working (32-bit)
Evany : Crystal keys II (32-bit)
Everquest
Everquest II
Far Cry (64-bit and 32-bit with v1.4 patch)
Evidence – the last ritual
F.E.A.R (32-Bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
F1 2006 (Win 98/Me Compatibility Mode)
FlatOut 2 (32 bit Home Premium)
Flight Simulator 2004
Flight Simulator X
FBI: Hostage Rescue
F.E.A.R
FIFA 07
FIFA Manager 2007
Football Manager 2007
Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich
Freelancer
Flatout 2 (European with Starforce update)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Gothic 3 (Windows Vista wont allow 2 files to install in system folder(64 bit))
Grand Prix 4
Grand Theft Auto II
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (32-bit: Functions flawlessly / 64-bit: Problematic when tested on Ultimate Edition. Experiences random freezes and crashes, notably when graphics are set to “Very High” quality).
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Guild Wars: All 3 versions ( Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall )
Gun
GunBound WC
Half Life
Half Life 2 & Half Life 2: Episode One
Halo: Combat Evolved(need a patch windows tel you about it)
Halo: Custom Edition(needs a update tho download http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1884)
Heroes 5
Hitman: Blood Money
Hitman: Contracts
Hoyle Card games 2007 works great.
Hoyle Board games 2007 works great.
Hoyle Puzzle games 2007 works great.
Hugo: The Evil Mirror
In The Groove + Impact dancepad
Jack the Reaper
Jade Empire: Special Edition (x86 & x64)
Jazz Jack Rabbit 2
Little Fighter 2 (32 bit)
KISS: Psycho Circus The Nightmare Child
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Legend
Lego Star Wars II (64-bit)
Lineage II: Chronicle 5 (32-bit) works well!
LOCOMOTION by Chris Sawyer (64-bit)
Max Payne 1.01
Max Payne 2
Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault Installed MOHAA Ver1.1 on 32-bit Ultimate, plays fine with no problems at all, multiplayer untested as yet.
Klotski (and Microsoft Entertainment Pack 1991)
Magic Ball 3
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (x86 and x64)
Myst III : Exile (32-bit)
Myst IV : Revelation (32-bit)
Myst V : End of Ages (32-bit)
Myth II Soulblighter v1.6 (32 and 64bit)
MU Online (Ultra low FPS)
Need for Speed (32-bit)
Need for Speed III: Hot pursuit
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Neverwinter Nights 2 (32-bit and 64-bit)
Nexuiz
NHL 06
NHL 07
Outrun 2006
Paradise (from Benoit Sokal) (32-bit)
Pariah (With 98/ME Compatibility mode)
Pacific Warriors
Phantasy Star Universe
Prey (Requires working OpenGL support)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (Starts Windows MCE upon exit?)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6
Psychonauts
Quake 2
Quake 3 Arena
Quake 4 (v1.3) Works. Tested on Vista Enterprise 64-bit and Vista Ultimate 32-bit
Race – The WTCC Game
Ragnarok Online
Rainbow Six: Lockdown
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Return to mysterous Island
Rise of Nations Gold (32 bit)
RollerCoaster Tycoon [With the Loopy Landscape Add-On] (Vista 32-bit)
- Add the “Windows 95″ compatibility mode for the file “rct.exe”
- Add the “Full control” right to “Everyone” for the folder of RCT and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
- Add the “Full control” right to “Everyone” for the folder of RCT2 and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
Rome: Total War
Savage (32-bit)
Schizm : mysterious journey (CD) (32-bit)
Scratches (32-bit) : Update of Starforce drivers NOT needed
Second Sight
SimCity 3000 Unlimited (32-bit)
SimCity 4 and RushHour Expansion (Vista 64-bit)
Soul Reaver 2
Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Star Wars Galaxies
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Clone Campaigns
Star Wars Jedi Academy (32bit)
Star Wars Jedi Outcast (32bit)
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (32bit)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2 (32 bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
Starcraft
Steam (Build: Jan 15 2007, 10:37:59)
Super Collapse! Puzzle Gallery 1.0.8.0
Super Mario Forever (After starting the game, the mouse cursor of Vista still appears on the screen. Ignore it.)
SWAT 4 & The Stetchkov Syndicate (32-bit)
Test Drive Unlimited (if there are problems run as administrator and/or in xp sp2 compatibility mode)
The Amerzone (32-bit) (Win 98 Compatibility Mode)
The Black Mirror (2nd edition, 2CD without Starforce) (32-bit)
The longest journey (32-bit). Official patch here
The Elderscrolls Oblivion (32-bit)
The Sims 2 (32-bit/64-bit)(All expansions pack works!)
The Movies (32-bit)
The Simpsons – Hit & Run (32-bit)
Titan Quest
Tomb Raider I, II; III; The Lost Artefact, Revelation, Chronicles, Angel of darkness : run with unofficials patchs. See this site.
Tomb Raider Legend (32bit)
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4
Top Spin 2 (32 bit) Slow loading but work perfect
Train Simulator (Microsoft) (Vista 32-bit)
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Unreal Tournament 1999 Game of the Year Edition
Unreal Tournament 2004 – The text to speech engine switches from the game engine to the one supplied with Vista, if you don’t get voice taunts from other players, check your control panel text to speech voice to make sure it works.
URU : Ages beyond Myst with “The path to the Shell” extension (32-bit)
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Warcraft 3 & also The Frozen Throne(With 98/ME Compatibility Mode)
Warhammer Mark of Chaos
Warhammer Dawn Of War 40k (32 Bit)
World of Warcraft – May have issues with Graphics and Sound (Depending on Hardware Installed)
Wolfenstein: Enemy territory 2.60b (Worked perfectly with Ultimate RTM, usin PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT, and nVidia 97.46 forceware for Windows vista)
World Racing 2 (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Worms 4: Mayhem
Worms Armageddon with latest patch (32bit)
Worms World Party
X3 : Reunion
X-Plane v7+ (32bit)
UPDATES
1701 A.D. (32,64-Bit)
18 Wheels of Steel: Across America (32-bit)
18 Wheels of Steel: Pedal To The Metal (Windows XP SP2 Compatibility Mode. Run as Administrator)
18 Wheels of Steel: Haulin’ (Windows XP SP2 Compatibility Mode. Run as Administrator)
Aladdin in Nasira’s Wraak (Dutch)
Aliens versus Predator 2
Age of Mythology and The Titans expansion
Age of Wonders II
Archlord (32-bit and 64-bit)
BioShock (64-bit)
Cold War
Colin McRae – DiRT (32/64-bit)
Colin McRae Rally 2 (32-bit Home Premium)
Commanche 4 (32-bit Home Premium)
Command & Conquer: The First Decade (Tiberium Sun may need to be re-installed)
Command & Conquer: Generals Zero Hour (Run as Administrator)
Command & Conquer: Renegade
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars(32-bit)
Crysis
Darkstar One (vista ultimate 64bit)Prior to installation, install the tages 5.5signed drivers for vista 64bit: http://www.tagesprotection.com/5.5.htm .After instalation of these drivers, install the game, patch to version 1.3 and run in administrator mode and Xp SP2 compability mode.
Dawn of War: Dark Crusade v1.2 (Vista Ultimate 64-bit)
Deer Avenger 2
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (32-bit both demo and full game)
Fable: The Lost Chapters (Requires a fix obtained via Windows Update to fix compatibility issues and the latest video drivers or you’ll get black screens during gameplay and cutscene playback; this occurs primarily on nVidia chipsets, although it can be fixed by downloading the nVidia Forceware driver from the nVidia website).
Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics (32 bit Home Premium)
F.E.A.R* Extraction Point (expansion) has major problems on all platforms, including XP.
F.E.A.R Combat (Multiplayer
Final Fantasy XI (with Windows-compatible Playonline Viewer)
Garry’s Mod 10 (32/64-bit works)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (32/64-bit)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (64-bit) (GRAW2 works, but the Ageia PhysX engine may need to be installed with the quiet option)
Global Operations
Halo 2
Half Life 2: Lost Coast
Hitman: Blood Money (Displays errors due to the fact that it cannot locate the DirectX9 files it requires. Will not recognize DirectX10)
Homeworld (Ultimate 32-bit)
Heroes of Might and Magic II- The Succession Wars (Operates fine with no compatiblity changes on Home Premium)
HomeWorld 2 (Home Premium 32-bit)- Works just fine, version 1.0
IGI2: Covert Strike (32-bit)
Jack Nicklaus 6: Golden Bear Challenge (Install XP patch, run in Compatibility Mode XP SP2)
Jerusalem (French) (32-bit). Patch available here
Keepsake (32-bit) (Works after updating the StarForce drivers)
Kill Switch
Klotski (and Microsoft Entertainment Pack 1991)
Knights and Merchants (run as an administrator 32-bit Home Premium)
Mafia: City of Lost Heaven (32-bit)
Medal of Honor: Airborne (32/64-bit)
Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault (32-bit) Must check “Run this program as an Administrator”
Medieval 2 Total War (32-bit and 64-bit)
Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries – Must be patched to latest version and run in Windows XP Compatibility Mode as an Administrator (Home Premium 32-bit)
Microsoft Crimson skies (32-bit) Works with GeForce 8 series drivers, whereas older drivers cause a font display bug. Unplayble on hardware mode, though software mode works.
Monkey island III: the curse of Monkey island (32-bit) (Windows 95/98 compatibility mode)
Monkey island IV: Escape from Monkey Island (32-bit)
Nancy Drew: Mystery of the Old Clock (32-bit) – European versions must be run with updated StarForce drivers
Natural Selection 3.2 – Type “gammaramp 0″ in console to remedy color anomalies, though brightness problems still may occur (32-bit)
NBA Live 2003 (32-bit)
Need for Speed:Road Challenge – Works in software mode on GeForce 8 series and other none glide cards. Hardware mode crashes, though it may be circumvented with a Glide fix such as GlidewrapperdgVoodoo.
Neverwinter Nights (Must update to v1.68)(32-bit)
No One Lives Forever 2 (Ultimate 64-bit)
Oolite 1.68 Test (32-bit)
Overlord
Playboy: The Mansion
Planescape: Torment
Pompei (French) Patch available here (32-bit)
Powerslide
Prey (Requires working OpenGL support)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (Manually run the installer PrinceOfPersiaSetup.exe as an Administrator)
Priston Tale (32-bit)
Rallisport Challenge (32-bit)
Rayman 3:Hoodlum Havoc
Resident Evil 4 – Requires d3dx9_30.dll to be placed in the install folder, the default of which is Capcom/Resident Evil 4 (32-bit)
Runaway I (32-bit)
Runaway II (32-bit) – v1.3 – you must install the patch available here : english version or french version
SafeCracker (32-bit)
Secret Files: Tunguska (32-bit)
Serious Sam 2 – Requires patch 2.068 (64-bit)
Settlers 10th Anniversary (Run in XP Compatibility Mode)
SimCity Societies (32-bit)
Sold Out Baldies
Soldiers – Heroes of World War II (32-bit) Must run in Windows 98/Me Compatibility Mode, even with the official Vista patch
Sonic & Knuckles Collection
Spider-Man (CD-ROM with PC game Kelloggs/Got Milk? version)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
Starcraft: Brood War
Starsiege Tribes – Requires patch by NoFIX (Ultimate 32-bit)
Star Trek: Legacy (Ultimate 32-bit)
Star Wars – Empire at War (32-bit/64-bit)
Star Wars Republic Commando (32-bit) GeForce 8 owners must update to the latest drivers
Stubbs the Zombie (Demo) (32-bit)
Syberia I, Syberia II – CD or DVD version (32-bit)
The Moment of Silence (French). This game uses an old version of StarForce protection, currently incompatible with Windows Vista. House of Tales has released an update here
The Movies – Stunts and Special effects Expansion (64 bit)
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (32-bit) Tribunal expansion works. For Bloodmoon expansion see Minor Problem section.
The Sims Vista Home Pre. 32 bit Works fine must check(Run as Administrator)
Titan Quest & Immortal Throne expansion (32-bit/64-bit)
The Typing of the Dead – Run in Win98/ME Compatibility Mode (32-bit)
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06, PGA Tour 08 (32-bit/64-bit)TimeShift (64-bit)
Tony Tough (32-bit)
Tony Hawk’s American Wasteland (64-bit)
TrackMania United – Works perfect and does not require the steps for running TrackMania Nations. Very little lag when run with a GeForce 8800GTS (640MB) and 2GB of RAM.
Track Mania Sunrise
TS online (32-bit)
Two Worlds (32-bit, 64-bit)
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes (32-bit)
Vietcong (32-bit)
Virtua Tennis 3 (32-bit/64-bit)
WarRock – You will need to edit PunkBuster’s default files to prevent any and all problems using PunkBuster on Vista. (32-bit / Does NOT run on 64-bit)
Wheel of Fortune – First Edition (32-bit)
Who Wants to Be a Millionaire – Sports Editon
World in Conflict (32-bit/64-bit)
World of Warcraft, World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade
Worms 2 (Do not run on full screen)
Zoo Tycoon with Dinosaur Digs and Marine Mania expansion packs (32-bit)
Zoo Tycoon 2, Zoo Tycoon 2: Endangered Species
Okay, so u say these games will be compatible, but what do you do to make them so? Trying to install them just makes my Vista crash…
Help!
Well i have not installed all but tried some of them…
Doom3>> doesnt work properly though, has some glitches…
FEAR>> works perfect
GTA SA>> Perfect
HITman>> perfect..
Splinter 1,2,3 fine…
Civilization doesn’t work for me on my 32 bit Vista HP
Cant get Blade Runner to work on my vista
anybody know about nascar sim racing. i have vista and it installs but thats it.
I dont think its supported currently
Gothic 3 is still not workin right on vista though i cant say im suprised
Just wanted to add a precision to your list
you can add heroes 5 and dynasty warriors 4 hyper , they work perfectly
But worms 4 has nothing to do here…
yes after some (hard) work, the game launches…. but except for the “défi” section, it will escape systematically after the first mission…
so there’s running games and “running” games!
List updated ;)
please test commandos 2,3
Oh commandos…
Ill try to get hands on it…
i wonder if lineage II chronicle 4 and silverfall can be played with vista32bit.
anyone ever tried it?
I cant get FM 2007 to run on vista
Another one that works, except for some strange graphical disappearance sometimes (the trousers running without anybody in! lol)is Freedom Fighters
hello i am a nerd and i would like to say that there is a problem running wow with the graphics and my sound do not work correctly please fix. peace, love
gap
Ragnarok downloads perfectly, but the installation makes my computer crash. Could you maybe test it for me?
Company of Heroes does not run on my Windows Vista Ultimate. I have checked the web and this is a common problem – Relic claims they are aware of the problem and have no fix for it. Anyone else have a COH problem???
Well I am having a problem installing Black and White 2 on my vista home premium it keeps giving me an error message and i can’t figure how to get it installed i love the game and it is making me very mad, can someone please help!!!
Company of heroes works fine on Home premium, dont know about Ultimate edition
If black n white 2 is refusing to install then i guess theres some problem in installation …
try uninstalling, manually deleting files then again installing
Might work….
Civilization 4 will absolutely not run on vista home edition. I even installed DX again and put the resolution down.
I have a new laptop which came with this stupid software, and I will be reformatting and installing XP tomorrow. What a piece of junk.
And the macintosh ad making fun of “cancel and allow” was spot on, every single action you take is questioned by the system.
lionmacgregor says Freedom Fighters works (with some minor graphical problems) but when I run the game on my Vista, there are no graphical problems whatsoever but the game just runs twice as fast. When I move my character, he runs extremely fast, en also conversations are way faster than it normally should be like…
Does anyone know a solution for that? (I’ve tried XP compatibility mode and also run as administrator) My specs are way above the minimum requirements.
its good that the game is fast…
wats da problm then??
Sims 4 DOES NOT work on Vista. No matter how much I’ve tweaked it, it does not work. Niether does command and conquer decade.
Hey fellows this problem can be properly discussed in our forums.
Here’s the Link
http://www.thinktechno.com/forum/
V8 Supercars 3 (TOCA Race Driver 3) will not run on my vista home premium. Says StarForce Driver needs a patch before compatibility is accepted…help?
sim city 4 does not work for me either. Has maxis made any upgrades or downloads?
Anybody know about Oblivion? I want to buy it, or would it be a waste of my money with vista?
Never mind the above comment. Didn’t finish reading the whole list.
I have warhammer dawn of war pc-dvd and it blue screens on inserting the disk. How can you have any credit to your list?
NOTE: Command And Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
is not yet supported on Vista 64bit
This is terrible they’d make an entire system that won’t support jack shit. Microsoft should be ashamed.
Lets wait n watch…who knows somethin might turn out to be good
The Dx10 cards are scheduled to release on 17th…
Gaming might be better on vista…
Read more about the Dx 10 cards here
http://www.thinktechno.com/2007/04/04/nvidia-8-series-new-range-cards-arrival-dates-and-prices/
I need help I am running vista and trying to play Conquer Online.I can boot up and play for a min. but am soon kicked off. Pls help me.
I guess thats some server problem
diablo2 doesnt work even changing compatability like suggested above screen goes blank 20 seconds into game any suggestions?
audio still works though
vista isnt working for any games that i usually play and this is getting old and tiresome
i have to agree with dick this is horrible
ok this is messed up
Guys jus chill n wait for Dx10 cars … lets wait n watch wat happens….
I think gaming will be good…
Well be testing games on Vista, once Dx10 cards are released..
Theyll release within 3-4days….
I bought dawn of war gold edition and it worked after i installed all the patches, and bumped up my resolution to 1280×1024, runs great!
Does anyone know if Caesar IV and Star Wars Empir At War works with vista? I have 32 bit and an nvidia 7300 le.
It depends on the system you have. I’m running a quad core with 2gigs corsair. My system still crashes due to the crappy 8800 nvidia drivers for vista. Many of these games crash due to this.
guru3d.com has some unofficial 8800 drivers u all can test those thou. But personally Vista = to shit maybe someone might hack DX 10 support for XP one day i just don’t want to go to Vista again.
Tried to install ‘World Championship Poker 2: featuring Howard Lederer’. InstallShield was interrupted right when the installation starts. Is that what suppose to happen when a game is not compatible? can you check the game for me? Thanks.
‘World Series of Poker 2007′ crashed my Vista HP when i clicked the Install button.
NOTE:
We have written a review on the mid range DX10 cards currently available!!
You can view it here
http://www.thinktechno.com/2007/04/18/arrival-of-nvidia-mid-range-dx10-cards-8600-8500-series/
any one recomend good games for vista if any could you get back to me on 01rchan@theweald.org.uk
Ghost Recon Gold seems to work fine also on Vista even Frostbite Mod.
I am trying to play Gothic 3 on my brand new HP with Vista. It gets through the loading process after I hit New Game and then the screen goes black and it says, Caused a Exception Access Violation in Module at 011B:0000005A.
I noticed you said that there are two files that Vista will not allow the program to download. Is there a way to play this game.
Thanks a lot.
Devon
The list says that SimCity 4 is vista compaitable, but for me it will only install half way before it freezes and won’t go on. is there anything I can do?